“Because I talk a lot with my colleagues and we have good relations—of course there are also some difficulties, but we talk them through—I never feel alone with it. That's a good thing. (…) I have colleagues with whom we are always talking about children and about everything else in school.”
“So I don't have to talk about school in my private life because I do it already right there.”
“But also, if I have a fun story or a difficult story I want to share, there are also other people around me in my life who like to listen. Maybe they are not in education, but it's not that they don't understand or that they can’t feel it a little bit. As for me, I live by myself now and I always have a lot of people who come by my house to visit [and want to know about my work]. My children are grown—they’re studying now—but sometimes they also come to my house to visit. But living alone has given me space to rest and breathe as well. It’s good that I have people in my life [in and out of school] that I can talk to.”